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Astark
10-30-2008, 05:18 PM
how many real solutions does this nonlinear system have:
[x]2 + [y]2 = 16
the x and y are squared
y=x-3
I've tried to use substitution, but this is not working out.
[x]2 + [x-3]2 = 16
[x]2 + [x]2 - 6x + 9 = 16
2[x]2 - 6x +9 - 16 = 0
2[x]2 - 6x - 7 = 0
if I try to factor out here, does not work?
Subhotosh Khan
10-30-2008, 10:03 PM
how many real solutions does this nonlinear system have:
[x]2 + [y]2 = 16
the x and y are squared
y=x-3
I've tried to use substitution, but this is not working out.
[x]2 + [x-3]2 = 16
[x]2 + [x]2 - 6x + 9 = 16
2[x]2 - 6x +9 - 16 = 0
2[x]2 - 6x - 7 = 0
if I try to factor out here, does not work?
What do you mean by "does not work"?
arthur ohlsten
10-30-2008, 10:48 PM
I find it helpful to sketch the problem so I can "see" the problem.
x^2+y^2=16 a circle centered at 0,0 with radius 4
y=x-3 a straight line slope 1, x intercept 3 , y intercept -3
when I sketched the equations I observed 2 interseptions
y=x-3
y^2=x^2-6x+9 substitute
x^2+[x^2-6x+9] =16
2x^2-6x-7=0
x=6+/-[36+56]^1/2 all over 4
x=6+/- 92^1/2 all over 4
x=[6+2sqrt 23]/4 answer
x=[ 6 - 2 sqrt 23]/4 answer
you can determine the y values
please check for errors
Arthur
Denis
10-31-2008, 08:58 AM
2[x]2 - 6x - 7 = 0
if I try to factor out here, does not work?
USE ^ to represent power: 2x^2 - 6x - 7 = 0
Now, do a google search on "quadratic equation": that's your "saviour" when you can't factor :idea:
arthur ohlsten
10-31-2008, 11:09 AM
factors of :
2x^2-6x-7=0
factors of 2=2,1
factors of 7=7,1
to factor the equation we want a set of factors whase difference of products = 6
none satisfy the requirement. That is why you couldnt factor.
use the binomial theorem
ax^2+bx+c=0 has the roots,[or factors ] of
x=-b+/- sqrt[b^2-4ax] all over 2a
factors are x - [3+sqrt 23] / 2
and x - [3-sqrt 23] / 2
sqrt23 is a irrational number and can't be written as a fraction, or ratio of integers .
The above is why you couldn't factor the polynomial.
Arthur
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