linear functions and linear equations: 8x-3y=6-4x

c_ortiz92

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i need major help bc i am not understanding this at all...its very confusing...and i am usually awesome at math....heres an example of what im working with

8x-3y=6-4x
 
what are you supposed to do with this equation ... i.e., directions?
 
What are you trying to do? What is the problem in its full extent? Please be specific :)

If you want to solve for either x or y, than combine like terms on either side, divide, add and subtract as nessesary
 
well, the instructions say to determine whether each equation is a linear equation, so i have to write this in standard form, along with determining the x and y intercept
 
So what's the problem?
Standard form: Ax + By + C = 0 where A, B, and C are numerical values

To find the x-interecept, you set y = 0 in your equation. To find the y-intercept, you set x = 0 in your equation.
 
yeah i know that, i just cant get it right....can you help me out....give an explanation perhaps?
 
8x - 3y = 6 - 4x

What don't you understand? Putting it into standard form? Basically, you move everything to one side of the equal sign.

For finding the x-intercept, set y = 0. So from your equation, substitute y for 0 and solve for x.

For finding the y-intercept, set x = 0 and do the same thing again.
 
well, this is what i got, but i think im still wrong, and still confused...but this is what i got when i moved everything to the other side of the equal side.

y=-2 2/3 x + -2 - 1 1/3 x

did i get that part right?
 
Not quite. Looks like you need to brush up on your algebra. Also, when I said move everything to one side, I meant EVERYTHING including the y (because there's the 0 on the right side of the equation: Ax + By + C = 0).

8x - 3y - 6 = 6 - 6 - 4x
8x - 3y - 6 = -4x
...
Keep going?
 
c_ortiz92 said:
well, this is what i got, but i think im still wrong, and still confused...but this is what i got when i moved everything to the other side of the equal side.

y=-2 2/3 x + -2 - 1 1/3 x

did i get that part right?

What are you doing is beyond me - however I'll do another problem and you follow the same procedure.

13y - 9x = -3y - x - 12

step (1) bring everything to one-side

13y - 9x + 3y + x +12 = 0

step(2) collect similar terms and simplify where possible

16y - 8x + 12 = 0

step(3) simplify further -where possible- by eliminating common factor

4y - 2x + 3 = 0 ..............DONE

In general, you should not have fractions as any of the coefficients (for this form).
 
oh, okay! :D that makes a little bit more sense, so i gave it another try and heres what i got this time

y= 1 1/3 x -2

x= 1/4 y + 1/2

and this time, im pretty sure of myself....though i probably did mess up somewhere a little....
 
c_ortiz92 said:
oh, okay! :D that makes a little bit more sense, so i gave it another try and heres what i got this time

y= 1 1/3 x -2

x= 1/4 y + 1/2

and this time, im pretty sure of myself....though i probably did mess up somewhere a little....

I don't see what problem you are solving - where did you get those.

If you are solving your original problem - then those are well "totally misguided".
 
Why are you solving for x and y? All you need is to get your original equation in standard form and plug x = 0 and y = 0 to find your y and x intercepts. Subhotosh Khan showed you how to put it in standard form for you. Now all you need to do is plug in x = 0 and y = 0.
 
:?: really? well can you thoroughly :!: explain the original problem to me, which is

8x-3y=6-4x

supposed to find x and y intercept
 
c_ortiz92 said:
:?: really? well can you thoroughly :!: explain the original problem to me, which is

8x-3y=6-4x

supposed to find x and y intercept

Again, I'll go back to my example (which was not your problem).


13y - 9x = -3y - x - 12

4y - 2x + 3 = 0 <--- standard form

x-intercept(y=0)

0 - 2x + 3 = 0

x = 3/2

So x-intercept is at (1.5,0)

y-intercept (x =0)

4y - 0 + 3 = 0

y = -3/4

So y-intercept is at (0,-0.75)
 
Do you understand what I mean when I say "set x = 0" to find the y-intercept? Let's try an example question and see if you can apply it to yours.

7x = 8y - 32

For finding the y-intercept, we let x = 0:
7(0) = 8y - 32
0 = 8y - 32
32 = 8y
y = 4

So for the equation 7x = 8y - 32, it crosses the y-intercept at y = 4. We do the same thing for the x-intercept except we set y = 0 instead.

For putting it into standard form (Ax + Bx + C = 0), we move everything to the other side:
7x - 8y + 32 = 8y - 32 - 8y + 32
7x - 8y + 32 = 0

And that's it.
 
okay, so first of all, i think im getting this roght this time,....how many times have i said that? anyways.

i have figured that the standard is

4x-3y-6=0

so

x= 3/4 y + 6/4
 
Can you show us your steps? Something's wrong when you're moving your variables around. Also, why do you solve for x?
 
shouldnt i be solving for x if im
1)writing the equation in standadrd form
2)determining the x intercept
3)determining the y intercept
?
well heres what ive done so far

the original problem is

8x-3y=6-4x

next i get

4x-3y-6=0

i got this because if you have a negative 4x and you add it to a positive 8x, you are gonna get 4x. and then, because you are moving the 6 to the other side of the equal sign, you are going to change it to a negative...

and i keep this as the standard form....

4x-3y-6=0

as for determining the x intercept

you have the standard form, which is

4x-3y-6=0

so you are going to get rid of the 4 that is attatched to the x, which means that you are going to do this:
4x=3y+6
4........4

and so as the answer, you get

x=3/4 y + 6/4

thats what i did,
 
8x - 3y = 6 - 4x

To get rid of the -4x on the right side, you ADD 4x to both sides. Not subtract.

8x + 4x - 3y = 6 - 4x + 4x
12x - 3y = 6
12x - 3y - 6 = 0

Ok. When finding the x-intercept, you don't solve for x. You take your equation (in this case 12x - 3y - 6 = 0) and set y = 0:
12x - 3(0) - 6 = 0
12x - 6 = 0
And you solve for x.

Then, for finding the y-intercept, you don't solve for y. You take your equation again and set x = 0 and THEN solve for y. Don't waste your time doing unnecessary algebra.
 
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