Conditional Probability in Poker Situations

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I've just learned Bayes' Theorem, for conditional probability, but I am unclear how to use it in Poker situations. I have this problem that I am stuck on, unsure how to read it in a way that it makes sense to me where to start.

"Say you're playing three-card poker; that is, you're dealt three cards in a row at random from a standard deck of 52 cards.
What are the odds of getting a pair or three of a kind?"

A related question, to the above:

"Now suppose that your first two cards are of different denominations. What's the probability of getting a pair?"

Is Bayes' Theorem applicable here, and if so, how? Thanks!
 
Personally, rather than apply Bayes' Theorem "blindly" I have always preferred to "analyze" the situation. There are 52 cards in a deck. Once you have two of them there are 50 cards left (other players have received other cards but it can be shown that, as long as you don't know what they are, you need not take them into account). Let's say the two cards you got are of denominations "A" and "B". Of the 48 cards left 3 are of denomination "A" so the probability your third card is also "A" is 3/48= 1/16. Of the 48 cards left 3 are of denomination "B" so the probability your third card is also "B" is 3/48= 1/16. To get a pair your third card must be either "A" or "B" so the probability of that is 1/16+ 1/16= 1/8.
 
you're dealt three cards in a row at random from a standard deck of 52 cards.
What are the odds of getting a pair or three of a kind?

For the probability of getting a pair...

P(2nd card matches 1st) + P(2nd card DID NOT match 1st)*( P(3rd card matches 1st) + P(3rd card matches 2nd))

Does this make sense to you? Can you replace the three "?" with the correct fractions?

3/51 + ? * ( ? + ?) ≈ 0.1717647
 
Understanding probabilities in the game of poker is a useless endeavor. Poker is a game of strategy, knowing all probabilities at every turn won't give you an advantage. However, a general understanding of what are the chances of getting a pair could be useful. There are apps that show probabilities if that is what you need. If you want to gain an advantage, try reading poker books and practice a lot.
 
For the probability of getting a pair...

P(2nd card matches 1st) + P(2nd card DID NOT match 1st)*( P(3rd card matches 1st) + P(3rd card matches 2nd))

Does this make sense to you? Can you replace the three "?" with the correct fractions?

3/51 + ? * ( ? + ?) ≈ 0.1717647
yeah,it makes sense...
 
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Bayes' theorem is not always true. Considering that in the casino you use your real money, trust the theory of probability is not entirely correct.
 
Pair: You have to 1st pick a denomination and then pick two of the 4 cards. Then you need to pick a 2nd denomination and pick one card from the 4. This can be done in 13C1*4C2*12C1*4C1 ways

3 of a kind: Pick a denomination and then pick 3 out of 4 cards.
This can be done in 13C1*4C3 ways.

Add the two.
 
I also learned the Bayes' Theorem but the same as you I am unclear how to use it in poker situations. More than that, I understood that I'm not lucky in poker, so I transferred on playing slots automats and more simple games. I chose a proven platform that offers many interesting variants of gambling and finally I began to win. Maybe card games are not for me or I'm just tired and my brain doesn't work like it used to. Anyway, the main thing is that I returned my money which I have invested and I even went into a plus. I wish you success.
 
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Bayes Theorem has nothing to do with this problem.

The easiest way to solve this problem is this. What is the probability of drawing 3 cards of different ranks.? This is a problem in conditional probabilities.

You have a deck of cards consisting of 52 cards, with 4 suits, each containing 13 cards, and 13 ranks, each containing 4 cards.

You draw one card at random from the deck. What is the probability that it has a rank? Obviously 1.

You draw a second card at random from the deck. What is the probability that it is of a rank different from the first card? There are 51 ways to draw a second card, but only 48 ways to draw a card of a different rank. So the probability of drawing a second card of a different rank is 48/51.

You draw a third card at random from the deck. What is the probability that it is of a rank different from the ranks of both the first and second cards drawn. There are 50 ways to draw a third card, but only 44 ways to draw a card of a third rank. So that probability is 44/50.

Thus the probability of drawing three cards, all of different rank, is

[MATH]1 * \dfrac{48}{51} * \dfrac{44}{50} = \dfrac{16}{17} * \dfrac{22}{25} = \dfrac{352}{425}[/MATH]
The probability of drawing 2 or 3 cards of the same rank is

[MATH]1 - \dfrac{352}{425} = \dfrac{73}{425} \approx 17.17647\%.[/MATH]
You can get there another way. How many ways can you pick three cards from fifty-two (ignoring the order in which they are drawn)?

[MATH]\dbinom{52}{3} = \dfrac{52 * 51 * 50}{ 3 * 2} = 22100.[/MATH]
How many ways can you draw 2 cards from 4 of the same rank, say the ace? Just 6. They could be spades-hearts, spades-diamonds, spade clubs, hearts-diamonds, heart-clubs, or diamonds-clubs. How many ways can you draw 1 card from the 48 cards of different rank? 48 obviously. So the number of ways to pick 3 cards with 2 aces is 6 * 48 = 288.

So the probability of drawing exactly two aces is 288/22100.

What is the probability of drawing 3 aces? By similar logic, we get 4/22100.

So the probability of drawing two or three aces is

[MATH]\dfrac{4}{22100} + \dfrac{288}{22100} = \dfrac{292}{22100} = \dfrac{4 * 73}{4 * 5525} = \dfrac{73}{5525}.[/MATH]
But we need to multiply that by 13 to get the probability of two or three of ANY rank.

[MATH]13 * \dfrac{73}{5525} = 13 * \dfrac{73}{13 * 425} = \dfrac{73}{425}.[/MATH]
But that is precisely what we got the other way. In neither case did we use Bayes Theorem.

The relevance of Bayes Theorem arises from knowledge. Poincarre said that probability is a measure of our ignorance. As we know more, probabilities change. Bayes Theorem tells us how to compute the change exactly. But it is simply common sense. If you already hold 2 aces. your chance of drawing an ace will be less than if you hold no aces. That is the meaning of Bayes Theorem. The practical use of the exact computations specified in Bayes Theorem is admittedly probably close to zero because few of us can do that kind of arithmetic in our heads. I certainly can’t.

If you need an ace to make three of a kind playing seven card stud, your prospects get worse if someone else is dealt an ace. You now have only one ace you could possibly get as opposed to two. That is Bayes Theorem in qualitative form. The people who are telling you that it has no relevance are pig ignorant.
 
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