find the polynomial equation

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I have zk=cos2kπ5+isin2kπ5,k=1,2,3,4\displaystyle z_{k}=cos\frac{2k\pi}{5}+isin\frac{2k\pi}{5}, k=1,2,3,4.

I need to find the polynomial equation for the roots $z_k(k=1,2,3,4)$

The right answer is x4+x3+x2+x+1=0\displaystyle x^4+x^3+x^2+x+1=0.I tried to replace k with 1,2,3,4 to find the roots and then to use a(xx1)(xx2)(xx3)(xx4)\displaystyle a(x-x_1)(x-x_2)(x-x3)(x-x_4) but I didn't get too far.
 
I have zk=cos2kπ5+isin2kπ5,k=1,2,3,4\displaystyle z_{k}=cos\frac{2k\pi}{5}+isin\frac{2k\pi}{5}, k=1,2,3,4.
I need to find the polynomial equation for the roots $z_k(k=1,2,3,4)$
The right answer is x4+x3+x2+x+1=0\displaystyle x^4+x^3+x^2+x+1=0.I tried to replace k with 1,2,3,4 to find the roots and then to use a(xx1)(xx2)(xx3)(xx4)\displaystyle a(x-x_1)(x-x_2)(x-x3)(x-x_4) but I didn't get too far.
First some notation. zk=cos2kπ5+isin2kπ5=exp(2Kπi5)\displaystyle z_{k}=cos\frac{2k\pi}{5}+isin\frac{2k\pi}{5}={\exp \left( {\frac{{2K\pi i}}{5}} \right)}
The exp(iθ)=cos(θ)+isin(θ)\displaystyle {\exp \left(i\theta \right)}=\cos(\theta)+i\sin(\theta) is for ease of computation.
There are five fifth roots of unity: z5=1\displaystyle z^5=1 has five roots; z=exp(2Kπi5), K=0,1,,4\displaystyle z=\exp \left( \frac{2K\pi i}{5} \right),~K=0,1,\cdots,4.
Each of the four given numbers are fifth roots of unity.
You say "The right answer is x4+x3+x2+x+1=0\displaystyle x^4+x^3+x^2+x+1=0.
So you need show each of the given numbers is a root of that polynomial.
To that end SEE HERE You see usings the first of the numbers, K=1\displaystyle K=1 is a root, gives 0\displaystyle 0.

 
But let's say I don't know the answer.How I get that answer without involving the answer ?
 
As pka pointed out, we know that the given roots are all but one of the 5th roots of unity, and we should observe that:

[MATH]x^5-1=(x-1)(x^4+x^3+x^2+x+1)[/MATH]
Now, since k=0k=0 is not included, which is associated with the root x=1x=1, we are then left with:

[MATH]f(x)=x^4+x^3+x^2+x+1[/MATH]
 
As pka pointed out, we know that the given roots are all but one of the 5th roots of unity, and we should observe that:

[MATH]x^5-1=(x-1)(x^4+x^3+x^2+x+1)[/MATH]
Now, since k=0k=0 is not included, which is associated with the root x=1x=1, we are then left with:

[MATH]f(x)=x^4+x^3+x^2+x+1[/MATH]

How to know this thing?I mean, what should I notice?What should I verify to notice this?
 
How to know this thing?I mean, what should I notice?What should I verify to notice this?
How do you expect any of us to know an answer to that?
What course are you studying? Have you studied the roots of unity?
If you have then you should have recognized those given numbers as fifth roots of unity.
 
Look at the given numbers: zk=cos(2kπ5)+isin(2kπ5)\displaystyle z_k= \cos\left(\frac{2k\pi}{5}\right)+ isin\left(\frac{2k\pi}{5}\right). That is of the form x+iy with x2+y2=1\displaystyle x^2+ y^2= 1. Those five points lie along a circle of radius 1 centered at the origin and equally spaced. That should be enough to tell you that they are "cyclotomic" points. n points, equally spaced along a circle of radius 1 with center at the origin of the complex plane satisfy the polynomial equation xn+xn1++x+1=0\displaystyle x^n+ x^{n-1}+ \cdot\cdot\cdot+ x+ 1= 0.
 
Thank you @HallsofIvy I get it.
@pka I studied roots of unity at school but I never met roots of unity with complex numbers.At school we usually know the equation and we recognice the roots of unity.I didn't recognize them because I'm not used to use roots of unity in exercises with complex numbers.
Thank you for your help!
 
":I studied roots of unity at school but I never met roots of unity with complex numbers."

Are you sure of that? The only "roots of unity" that are real numbers are 1 and -1!
 
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