G grapz Junior Member Joined Jan 13, 2007 Messages 80 Jun 12, 2007 #1 (x^4 + y^4 )^1/2 = x^2 + y so i do take the derviative of both sides. and i get 1/2 ( x^ 4 + y^4) ^-1/2 ( 4x^3 + 4y^3(dy/dx) = 2x + dy/dx However i am stuck and can not isolate for dy/dx can some1 help me thanks
(x^4 + y^4 )^1/2 = x^2 + y so i do take the derviative of both sides. and i get 1/2 ( x^ 4 + y^4) ^-1/2 ( 4x^3 + 4y^3(dy/dx) = 2x + dy/dx However i am stuck and can not isolate for dy/dx can some1 help me thanks
tkhunny Moderator Staff member Joined Apr 12, 2005 Messages 11,325 Jun 12, 2007 #2 grapz said: (x^4 + y^4 )^1/2 = x^2 + y 1/2 ( x^ 4 + y^4) ^-1/2 ( 4x^3 + 4y^3(dy/dx) = 2x + dy/dx Click to expand... You waded through that mess only to drown in the algebra? It's a shame. What, besides the missing parenthesis, is troubling you. (1/2 ( x^ 4 + y^4) ^-1/2) [ 4x^3 + 4y^3(dy/dx)] = 2x + dy/dx Sometimes, I like to simplify a bit so I can see more clearly. Can you solve this? (Mess) [ 4x^3 + 4y^3(dy/dx)] = 2x + dy/dx (Mess)*4x^3 + Mess*4y^3(dy/dx)] = 2x + dy/dx (Mess)*4x^3 - 2x = dy/dx - Mess*4y^3(dy/dx) (Mess)*4x^3 - 2x = dy/dx(1 - Mess*4y^3) [(Mess)*4x^3 - 2x]/[1 - Mess*4y^3] = dy/dx Now what?
grapz said: (x^4 + y^4 )^1/2 = x^2 + y 1/2 ( x^ 4 + y^4) ^-1/2 ( 4x^3 + 4y^3(dy/dx) = 2x + dy/dx Click to expand... You waded through that mess only to drown in the algebra? It's a shame. What, besides the missing parenthesis, is troubling you. (1/2 ( x^ 4 + y^4) ^-1/2) [ 4x^3 + 4y^3(dy/dx)] = 2x + dy/dx Sometimes, I like to simplify a bit so I can see more clearly. Can you solve this? (Mess) [ 4x^3 + 4y^3(dy/dx)] = 2x + dy/dx (Mess)*4x^3 + Mess*4y^3(dy/dx)] = 2x + dy/dx (Mess)*4x^3 - 2x = dy/dx - Mess*4y^3(dy/dx) (Mess)*4x^3 - 2x = dy/dx(1 - Mess*4y^3) [(Mess)*4x^3 - 2x]/[1 - Mess*4y^3] = dy/dx Now what?