V viet New member Joined Nov 19, 2005 Messages 13 Feb 25, 2006 #1 If f(x) = (4x+5)/(7x+4) Find f'(3) im not sure how to do this problem, so i use the Quotient rule. I got to be -1 which is wrong, can some help me with this?
If f(x) = (4x+5)/(7x+4) Find f'(3) im not sure how to do this problem, so i use the Quotient rule. I got to be -1 which is wrong, can some help me with this?
D daon Senior Member Joined Jan 27, 2006 Messages 1,284 Feb 25, 2006 #2 \(\displaystyle \L\\ f(x) = \frac{4x+5}{7x+4}\) \(\displaystyle \L\\ f'(x) = \frac{(7x+4)(4x+5)' - (7x+4)'(4x+5)}{(7x+4)^2}\) \(\displaystyle \L\\ f'(x) = \frac{(7x+4)(4) - (7)(4x+5)}{(7x+4)^2}\) \(\displaystyle \L\\ f'(x) = \frac{(28x+16) - (28x+35)}{(7x+4)^2}\) \(\displaystyle \L\\ f'(x) = \frac{(-19)}{(7x+4)^2}\) \(\displaystyle \L\\ f'(3) = ?\)
\(\displaystyle \L\\ f(x) = \frac{4x+5}{7x+4}\) \(\displaystyle \L\\ f'(x) = \frac{(7x+4)(4x+5)' - (7x+4)'(4x+5)}{(7x+4)^2}\) \(\displaystyle \L\\ f'(x) = \frac{(7x+4)(4) - (7)(4x+5)}{(7x+4)^2}\) \(\displaystyle \L\\ f'(x) = \frac{(28x+16) - (28x+35)}{(7x+4)^2}\) \(\displaystyle \L\\ f'(x) = \frac{(-19)}{(7x+4)^2}\) \(\displaystyle \L\\ f'(3) = ?\)
V viet New member Joined Nov 19, 2005 Messages 13 Feb 25, 2006 #3 oh ok, i was a lil confused there, thanks for the help daon
G galactus Super Moderator Staff member Joined Sep 28, 2005 Messages 7,203 Feb 25, 2006 #4 There are different ways of tackling problems like these. If I may, here's another approach: First long divide 4x+5 by 7x+5. It's just one short step. Code: 4/7 ---------------- 7x+4|4x+5 4x+16/7 -------------- 19/7 This gives: \(\displaystyle \L\\\frac{19}{7(7x+4)}+\frac{4}{7}\) You know the derivative of 4/7 is 0, so throw it out. You have: \(\displaystyle \L\\\frac{19}{7}\frac{d}{dx}[\frac{1}{7x+4}]\) Just take the derivative of \(\displaystyle \L\\(7x+4)^{-1}\) and multiply by 19/7. \(\displaystyle \L\\=-(7x+4)^{-2}(7)=\frac{-7}{(7x+4)^{2}}\) \(\displaystyle \L\\=>(\frac{19}{7})(\frac{-7}{(7x+4)^{2}})\)= \(\displaystyle \L\\\frac{-19}{(7x+4)^{2}}\)
There are different ways of tackling problems like these. If I may, here's another approach: First long divide 4x+5 by 7x+5. It's just one short step. Code: 4/7 ---------------- 7x+4|4x+5 4x+16/7 -------------- 19/7 This gives: \(\displaystyle \L\\\frac{19}{7(7x+4)}+\frac{4}{7}\) You know the derivative of 4/7 is 0, so throw it out. You have: \(\displaystyle \L\\\frac{19}{7}\frac{d}{dx}[\frac{1}{7x+4}]\) Just take the derivative of \(\displaystyle \L\\(7x+4)^{-1}\) and multiply by 19/7. \(\displaystyle \L\\=-(7x+4)^{-2}(7)=\frac{-7}{(7x+4)^{2}}\) \(\displaystyle \L\\=>(\frac{19}{7})(\frac{-7}{(7x+4)^{2}})\)= \(\displaystyle \L\\\frac{-19}{(7x+4)^{2}}\)
V viet New member Joined Nov 19, 2005 Messages 13 Feb 25, 2006 #5 I stuck on this problem similar to the one above, If f(x) = (sqrt(x)-3)/(sqrt(x)+3) Find f'(x). ((sqrt(x)+3)(sqrt(x)-3)' - (sqrt(x)+3)'(sqrt(x)-3)) / (sqrt(x)+3)^2 = ((sqrt(x)+3)(sqrt(x))-(sqrt(x))(sqrt(x)-3)) / (sqrt(x)+3)^2 im stuck at this point, not sure if i should cancel out the sqrt(x).
I stuck on this problem similar to the one above, If f(x) = (sqrt(x)-3)/(sqrt(x)+3) Find f'(x). ((sqrt(x)+3)(sqrt(x)-3)' - (sqrt(x)+3)'(sqrt(x)-3)) / (sqrt(x)+3)^2 = ((sqrt(x)+3)(sqrt(x))-(sqrt(x))(sqrt(x)-3)) / (sqrt(x)+3)^2 im stuck at this point, not sure if i should cancel out the sqrt(x).
D daon Senior Member Joined Jan 27, 2006 Messages 1,284 Feb 25, 2006 #6 You went wrong taking the deriviative of the square root \(\displaystyle \L\\ \frac{d [sqrt{x}+3]}{dx} = \frac{1}{2sqrt{x}}\)
You went wrong taking the deriviative of the square root \(\displaystyle \L\\ \frac{d [sqrt{x}+3]}{dx} = \frac{1}{2sqrt{x}}\)
G galactus Super Moderator Staff member Joined Sep 28, 2005 Messages 7,203 Feb 25, 2006 #7 First, you could try long division to transform it to \(\displaystyle \L\\1-\frac{6}{\sqrt{x}+3}\) Now differentiate.
First, you could try long division to transform it to \(\displaystyle \L\\1-\frac{6}{\sqrt{x}+3}\) Now differentiate.
G galactus Super Moderator Staff member Joined Sep 28, 2005 Messages 7,203 Feb 27, 2006 #9 Do you know how to long divide?. You should by now if you're in calculus. Anyway, Code: 1 ---------------- sqrt(x)+3|sqrt(x)-3 sqrt(x)+3 --------------- -6 That gives us \(\displaystyle 1-\frac{6}{\sqrt{x}+3}\) Now differentiate. Just another approach.
Do you know how to long divide?. You should by now if you're in calculus. Anyway, Code: 1 ---------------- sqrt(x)+3|sqrt(x)-3 sqrt(x)+3 --------------- -6 That gives us \(\displaystyle 1-\frac{6}{\sqrt{x}+3}\) Now differentiate. Just another approach.