If f is contin. on [a,b], its range is a closed interval

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I'm doing an old exam for my calculus class and the last question stumped me:

Question: If f is continuous on [a,b], show that the range of f is a closed interval [c,d]. (Hint: Be careful. You have to prove that the whole interval [c,d] is covered.

I'm really not sure how one would be able to approach this.
If f is continuous on [a,b], this implies \(\displaystyle \lim_{x \to m} f(x) = f(m)\) for m \(\displaystyle \in \left[a,b\right]\). That would mean I would have to somehow prove that f(m) \(\displaystyle \in [c,d]\) ...
 
How much topology do you know?
This is basically the theorem: The continuous image of a compact set is compact. In the reals that is equivalent to saying the continuous image of a closed and bounded set is a closed and bounded set.

Are you working with open covers that have finite subcovers?
If not work with sequence. Assume it is not bounded get a sequence that has no limit.

If you can tell us the exact context, what theorems and definitions you can use, then it is a lot easier to help. I don’t want to type up an argument that you cannot follow.
 
Sorry I haven't been formally introduced to any topology concepts. In fact, I'm only in a first-year calculus class looking over a mid-term over here. As you can tell from the context of the questions, we've only covered limits, continuity, and a bit of derivatives. So when I came across this question, it seemed to be a bit out of place.

Also, our prof wasn't referring to the min-max theorem here in the question before the one I posted in the PDF file in case you were wondering.[/url]
 
o_O said:
Also, our prof wasn't referring to the min-max theorem
Well given your level of study, I am confused as to what the instructor expected!
If I were you, I would have said that the max/min theorem gives us the upper and lower bounds and the intermediate value theorem guarantees the image is an interval.
 
Min-max theorem according to our prof:
If f is a function continuous on the closed interval [a,b], then f attains its absolute maximum and its absolute minimum values on [a,b] (i.e. \(\displaystyle \exists x_{1}\) and \(\displaystyle x_{2}\) in [a,b] such that \(\displaystyle \forall\)x in [a,b] we have that \(\displaystyle f(x_{1}) \leq f(x) \leq f(x_{2})\)

OH. So by this theorem wouldn't f(x1) and f(x2) be our bounds for [c,d] and the intermediate value property tell us that there exists any number in [a,b] which would yield, through f, a number in the interval [c,d]. Somewhat correct?

I think the word 'prove' in the question intimidated me. Thanks a lot pka!
 
o_O said:
the intermediate value property tell us that there exists any number in [a,b] which would yield, through f, a number in the interval [c,d].
BE CAREFUL. The intermediate value theorem says that: \(\displaystyle f\left( {x_1 } \right) < t < f\left( {x_2 } \right)\quad \Rightarrow \quad \left( {\exists s \in \left[ {a,b} \right]} \right)\left[ {f(s) = t} \right]\).
 
Oh. So if for some values of s we get certain values of t which are in the interval [c,d], how can we prove that ALL values of s would satisfy the statement f(x1) < t < f(x2)?
 
o_O said:
Oh. how can we prove that ALL values of s would satisfy the statement f(x1) < t < f(x2)?
The whole point is just that: \(\displaystyle \left( {\forall t \in [c,d]} \right)\left[ {c = f\left( {x_1 } \right) < t < f\left( {x_2 } \right) = d} \right]\quad \Rightarrow \quad \left( {\exists s \in \left[ {a,b} \right]} \right)\left[ {f(s) = t} \right]\)
 
Sorry for my misunderstanding but isn't that just showing that there exists some specific value of s such that f(s) = t. That doesn't cover all values of s in [a,b] ...
 
o_O said:
Sorry for my misunderstanding but isn't that just showing that there exists some specific value of s such that f(s) = t. That doesn't cover all values of s in [a,b] ...

For all means for all. You just need to sit down and think about it.
\(\displaystyle \vec{f\;} [a,b] \subseteq \left[ {c = f\left( {x_1 } \right),f\left( {x_2 } \right) = d} \right].\)
 
Oh right, in the min-max theorem, it stated that ALL x in [a,b] will make f(x) be bounded by c and d. Thanks a lot pka!
 
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