implicit differentiation

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I did both these problems on homework a few days back but theres a test tomorrow and i still dont completely understand how to do these. if anyone could help explain them that would be great. For both i had to find y' using implicit differentiation
1. x2y2 + x sin(y) = 1

I got this down to (-8x^7(x+y)+9y^2-x^8)/ (x^8-2y(9x-y)-y^2)

2. x8(x + y) = y2(9xy)
I am completely stuck on this one
 
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Implicitly differentiate with respect to \(\displaystyle x \) - This means solve for \(\displaystyle y'\).

Remember to differentiate everything, but only the differentiated y stuff, has y' connected to it.

1.

\(\displaystyle x^{2}y^{2} + x\sin(y) = 1\)

\(\displaystyle [(2x)(y^{2}) + (2yy')(x^{2})] + [(1)(\sin(y)) + (\cos(y)y')(x)] = 0\) Do product rule for terms on the left of the equation. On the right the derivative of a constant is \(\displaystyle 0\).

\(\displaystyle (2yy')(x^{2}) + (\cos(y)y')(x) + (2x)(y^{2}) + (1)(\sin(y)) = 0\) - Group y' containing stuff together.

\(\displaystyle (2yy')(x^{2}) + (\cos(y)y')(x)] = - (2x)(y^{2}) - (1)(\sin(y)) \) - Move terms that don't have y' connected to them on the other side of the equation.

\(\displaystyle y'[(2y)(x^{2}) + (\cos(y))(x)] = -(2x)(y^{2}) - (1)(\sin(y)) = 0\) - Factor out y'.

\(\displaystyle y' = \dfrac{- (2x)(y^{2}) - (1)(\sin(y)) }{ (2y)(x^{2}) + (\cos(y))(x)}\) - Isolate y'

\(\displaystyle y' = \dfrac{- (2x)(y^{2}) - (\sin(y)) }{ (2y)(x^{2}) + (\cos(y))(x)}\) - Sometimes the answer doesn't show the 1 values.

The answer might be written like this, which is the same thing:

\(\displaystyle y' = \dfrac{- (2x)(y^{2}) - (\sin(y)) }{ (2x^{2})(y) + (x)( \cos(y))}\)

2.

\(\displaystyle x^{8}(x + y) = y^{2}(9x - y)\)

\(\displaystyle (8x^{7})(x + y) + (1 + (1)y')(x^{8}) = (2yy')(9x - y) + (9 - (1)y')(y^{2})\) - Use the product rule for terms, some of which are contained in parenthesis.

\(\displaystyle (1 + (1)y')(x^{8}) - (2yy')(9x - y) - (9 - (1)y')(y^{2}) = -(8x^{7})(x + y)\) Group y' terms on the left. The non y' stuff on the right.

\(\displaystyle y'[ (1 + (1))(x^{8}) - (2y)(9x - y) - (9 - (1))(y^{2})] = -(8x^{7})(x + y)\) Factor out y'

\(\displaystyle y' = \dfrac{ -(8x^{7})(x + y) }{ (1 + (1))(x^{8}) - (2y)(9x - y) - (9 - (1))(y^{2}) } \) Isolate y'

\(\displaystyle y' = \dfrac{ -(8x^{7})(x + y) }{ (2x^{8}) - 18xy + 2y) - 8(y^{2}) } \) Might be simplifed like this.
 
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I did both these problems on homework a few days back but theres a test tomorrow and i still dont completely understand how to do these. if anyone could help explain them that would be great. For both i had to find y' using implicit differentiation
1. x2y2 + x sin(y) = 1

I got this down to (-8x^7(x+y)+9y^2-x^8)/ (x^8-2y(9x-y)-y^2)

2. x8(x + y) = y2(9xy)
I am completely stuck on this one
??? You have (1) and (2) reversed! What you give, in (1) as the derivative of \(\displaystyle x^2y+ x sin(y)= 1\) is the derivative of (2) \(\displaystyle x^8(x+ y)+ y= y^2(9x- y)\)!

To differentiate \(\displaystyle x^2y^2+ x sin(y)= 1\), by the product rule, \(\displaystyle (x^2y^2)'= (x^2)'y^2+ x^2(y^2)'= (2xx')y^2+ x^2(2yy')\). Since we are differentiating with respect to x, x'= 1 so \(\displaystyle (x^2yy^2)'= 2xy^2+ 2x^2yy'\). Also by the product rule, (x sin(y))'= (x') sin(y)+ x(sin(y))'. I presume you know that (sin(y))'= cos(y) y' so this is (1)sin(y)+ x cos(y) y'.

The derivative of left side of the equation is \(\displaystyle 2xy^2+ 2x^2yy'+ sin(y)+ x cos(y)y'\). The right side is "1", a constant, so its derivative if 0.
Solve \(\displaystyle 2xy^2+ 2x^2yy'+ sin(y)+ x cos(y)y'= 0\) for y'.
 
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