Integral - what is wrong here?

Shinta

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Hi the problem is to integrate x^3/(x-1) dx. I know the solution is x^3/3+x^2/2+x+ln(x-1)+constant; I figured out through long division.
I am trying to see why this u-substitution method is not working and provides a different answer. Thanks!

x^3*(x-1)^-1 dx
u=x-1 ; dx=du ; x=u+1
x^3*u^-1 du
substitute u+1 in for x
(u+1)^3*u^-1 du
foil out and divide out u
u^2 + 3u + 3 + 1/u du
integrate
u^3/3 + 3u^2/2 + 3u + ln(u) + C
plug in x-1 for u
(x-1)^3/3 + 3(x-1)^2/2 + 3(x-1) + ln(x-1) +C
 
Hi the problem is to integrate x^3/(x-1) dx. I know the solution is x^3/3+x^2/2+x+ln(x-1)+constant; I figured out through long division.
I am trying to see why this u-substitution method is not working and provides a different answer. Thanks!

x^3*(x-1)^-1 dx
u=x-1 ; dx=du ; x=u+1
x^3*u^-1 du
substitute u+1 in for x
(u+1)^3*u^-1 du
foil out and divide out u
u^2 + 3u + 3 + 1/u du
integrate
u^3/3 + 3u^2/2 + 3u + ln(u) + C
plug in x-1 for u
(x-1)^3/3 + 3(x-1)^2/2 + 3(x-1) + ln(x-1) +C

Your solution and the solution given to you are both correct.

If you expand your solution, you'll see that it is same as the other, except for a constant term.
 
integrate
u^3/3 + 3u^2/2 + 3u + ln(u) + C

plug in x-1 for u

(x-1)^3/3 + 3(x-1)^2/2 + 3(x-1) + ln(x-1) +C

Your instructor, textbook, hand-out, and/or computer programs need to show that
there are absolute value bars when used with the natural log in these particular
antiderivatives:


u33 + 3u22 + 3u + lnu +C\displaystyle \dfrac{u^3}{3} \ + \ \dfrac{3u^2}{2} \ + \ 3u \ + \ ln|u| \ + C


(x1)33 + 3(x1)22 + 3(x1) + lnx1 +C\displaystyle \dfrac{(x - 1)^3}{3} \ + \ \dfrac{3(x - 1)^2}{2} \ + \ 3(x - 1) \ + \ ln|x - 1| \ + C



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Shinta said:
x^3*(x-1)^-1 dx
u=x-1 ; dx=du ; x=u+1    \displaystyle \ \ \ \ <-------

And the logical progression here would be:   \displaystyle \ \ u = x - 1  \displaystyle \ leads to  \displaystyle \ x = u + 1  \displaystyle \ leads to  \displaystyle \ dx = du
 
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What I would have done, right from the beginning, is start by doing the indicated division: xx1=x1x1+1x1=1+1x1\displaystyle \frac{x}{x- 1}= \frac{x- 1}{x- 1}+ \frac{1}{x- 1}= 1+ \frac{1}{x- 1} and integrate that.
 
What I would have done, right from the beginning, is start by doing the indicated division:

xx1=x1x1+1x1=1+1x1\displaystyle \frac{x}{x- 1}= \frac{x- 1}{x- 1}+ \frac{1}{x- 1}= 1+ \frac{1}{x- 1} and integrate that.

The original numerator is  x3, \displaystyle \ x^3, \ as opposed to just  x.\displaystyle \ x.
 
x3x1 = x31+1x1 = x2+x+1+1x1\displaystyle \dfrac{x^3}{x-1} \ = \ \dfrac{x^3 - 1 + 1}{x-1} \ = \ x^2 + x + 1 + \dfrac{1}{x-1}
 
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