# Toppling problem

#### apple2357

##### Full Member

I cant get this one to work... can someone spot where my reasoning has gone wrong?

#### apple2357

##### Full Member
I think i have spotted it, my moments equation is incorrect?

#### blamocur

##### Senior Member
I agree that the moment is incorrect. I believe we can assume that [imath]N_1=0[/imath]. Indeed, in the case when [imath]P[/imath] is gradually increased and eventually topples the block we'll pass through the moment when the right bottom edge is lifted of the surface by infinitely small amount so that the geometry is essentially the same, but there is no longer any weight applied to the right bottom edge.
Does this make sense?

#### apple2357

##### Full Member
Yes thats what i essentially did by allowing N_1<0
I think the moment equation is wrong because i omitted a component of P.

#### blamocur

##### Senior Member
Yes thats what i essentially did by allowing N_1<0
I think the moment equation is wrong because i omitted a component of P.
Why would [imath]N_1[/imath] be non-zero if there is no contact at that point?