X xc630 Junior Member Joined Sep 1, 2005 Messages 164 Nov 13, 2006 #1 hello I would just like to know if I correctly derived the following line and what I did wrong if I did not 2xy + pi siny = 2pi I got: 2y + x (dy/dx) + pi cos (dy/dx) = 0
hello I would just like to know if I correctly derived the following line and what I did wrong if I did not 2xy + pi siny = 2pi I got: 2y + x (dy/dx) + pi cos (dy/dx) = 0
tkhunny Moderator Staff member Joined Apr 12, 2005 Messages 11,325 Nov 13, 2006 #2 You can "know" by gaining confidence and being consistent. You ALMOST got it. How did that "dy/dx" get INSIDE the cosine? What actually belongs there?
You can "know" by gaining confidence and being consistent. You ALMOST got it. How did that "dy/dx" get INSIDE the cosine? What actually belongs there?
X xc630 Junior Member Joined Sep 1, 2005 Messages 164 Nov 14, 2006 #3 pi cos y (dy/dx)? what do i do with the pi in front leaving it in front I got x + pi cos y (dy/dx) =-2y dy/dx = -2y/ x+ pi cos y plugging in the point (1, pi/2) I got -pi instead of -pi/2 ehich it should be. still i dont know where i went wrong
pi cos y (dy/dx)? what do i do with the pi in front leaving it in front I got x + pi cos y (dy/dx) =-2y dy/dx = -2y/ x+ pi cos y plugging in the point (1, pi/2) I got -pi instead of -pi/2 ehich it should be. still i dont know where i went wrong
skeeter Elite Member Joined Dec 15, 2005 Messages 3,204 Nov 14, 2006 #4 your derivative is incorrect ... \(\displaystyle \L 2xy + \pi \sin{y} = 2\pi\) \(\displaystyle \L 2x \frac{dy}{dx} + 2y + \pi \cos{y} \frac{dy}{dx} = 0\) \(\displaystyle \L 2x \frac{dy}{dx} + \pi \cos{y} \frac{dy}{dx} = -2y\) \(\displaystyle \L \frac{dy}{dx}(2x + \pi \cos{y}) = -2y\) \(\displaystyle \L \frac{dy}{dx} = \frac{-2y}{2x + \pi \cos{y}}\)
your derivative is incorrect ... \(\displaystyle \L 2xy + \pi \sin{y} = 2\pi\) \(\displaystyle \L 2x \frac{dy}{dx} + 2y + \pi \cos{y} \frac{dy}{dx} = 0\) \(\displaystyle \L 2x \frac{dy}{dx} + \pi \cos{y} \frac{dy}{dx} = -2y\) \(\displaystyle \L \frac{dy}{dx}(2x + \pi \cos{y}) = -2y\) \(\displaystyle \L \frac{dy}{dx} = \frac{-2y}{2x + \pi \cos{y}}\)
tkhunny Moderator Staff member Joined Apr 12, 2005 Messages 11,325 Nov 14, 2006 #5 xc630 said: what do i do with the pi in front Click to expand... It's just a number. Why do you have to do anything with it? If it were '4', would you be concerned?
xc630 said: what do i do with the pi in front Click to expand... It's just a number. Why do you have to do anything with it? If it were '4', would you be concerned?