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Kezzle

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First time poster, I recently purchased a firearm and am researching a gun safe. The one I am looking at has 4 buttons(one for each finger), and you can only have a 4 button combination. My question is that it seems like there are only a few combinations possible. How many combinations are there and how likely is someone to actually guess it? See link to the safe for a picture of it, thanks for the help.

Kelvin
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It is stated in the video, there are over 12 million. To figure it out, you would need to know how many presses are allowed.
 
Hello, Kezzle!

I recently purchased a firearm and am researching a gun safe.
The one I am looking at has 4 buttons (one for each finger), and you can only have a 4 button combination.
My question is that it seems like there are only a few combinations possible.
How many combinations are there and how likely is someone to actually guess it?
See link to the safe for a picture of it. Thanks for the help.

The combinations was explained in the FAQ.

I believe there are not millions of combinations.
But maybe I misread the instructions.

An entry is the pressing of 1, 2, 3 or 4 buttons simultaneously,
. . like playing a note or a chord on a keyboard.
And we can have 3, 4, 5, or 6 entries.


For each finger, we have two choices: press or not.
. . So there are \(\displaystyle 2^4 = 16\) possible entries.
However, this includes the option of pressing no buttons.
. . Hence, there are: \(\displaystyle 16 - 1 \,=\,15\) possible entries.

With 3 entries, there are \(\displaystyle 3\cdot15 = 45\) combinations.
With 4 entries, there are \(\displaystyle 4\cdot15 = 60\) combinations.
With 5 entries, there are \(\displaystyle 5\cdot15 = 75\) combinations.
With 6 entries, there are \(\displaystyle 6\cdot15 = 90\) combinations.

I find only \(\displaystyle 45 + 50 + 75 + 90 \,=\,270\) possible combinations.
 
If my understanding is correct, you CAN have more than 15^6 possibilities, which is over 11 million. Of course if you use only three entries, it is just 3375 possibilities.

I agree.
 
Hello, JeffM!

I too agree!


(I wonder where my brain was at the time . . .)
 
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