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What formula did they give you for choosing "n" particular elements out of "m" total elements?You have eight numbered balls ~ 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. You choose three numbered balls which appeal to you; say 1, 2, and 3. Then you put the eight numbers balls in a bag and pick out three balls. What is the probability of you then pulling out 1, 2, and 3?

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In my sons math class, 3 boys out of eight boys were chosen by their teacher to be given an opportunity to be taken to a museum. A parent complained that this was unfair - that this opportunity should have been open to everyone and not just the teachers ‘favorite’ kids.

this was put to the teacher who then said he would put the names of the eight boys in class into a hat and pull three names out randomly.

Incredibly, the outcome was the same ~ the names of the three boys he had originally chosen were pulled out of the hat.

Of course, this was done in private.

My son cried ‘fix’ so, I’d like to show him the probability of this occurring in real life.

\(\displaystyle \displaystyle

\binom{8}{3} = \frac{8!}{(8-3)!\,3!} = \frac{8\cdot7\cdot6}{3\cdot2} = 56.

\)

And the number of ways to choose three particular balls is \(\displaystyle \binom{3}{3} = 1\): you just pick out those balls and that's that. So the probability of randomly choosing 1,2,3 on the second draw would be

\(\displaystyle \displaystyle

\frac{\binom{3}{3}}{\binom{8}{3}}

=\frac{1}{56}

\approx0.0179,

\)

which is about 1.8%. So not terribly likely but certainly not impossible.