One often hears the statement "All absolute statements are false." . Would this illustrate "Russell's paradox" in that if the statement is true then it is false and vice versa? Trying to get my head around the problem of stating {x: x is not an element of x} Thanks.
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Russell's Paradox
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This paradox of self-reference is much older than Russell. Did the Cretan philosopher Epimenides speak truthfully or falsely when he said "All Cretans are liars."One often hears the statement "All absolute statements are false." . Would this illustrate "Russell's paradox" in that if the statement is true then it is false and vice versa? Trying to get my head around the problem of stating {x: x is not an element of x} Thanks.
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I think Russell's paradox goes something like this (without checking Google - I really should not be doing this - but what the heck, I wanna live dangerously.... without Google support): If God is omnipotent, can s/he build such large stone that s/he cannot lift it? (I asked that to my Grandmother and she chased me with a stick...)
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Ooops ... now I remember Russell's paradox has to do with set theory - inclusion of sets not-containing-itself.
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"The paradox of self-reference", thanks, that gives he me a handy handle.
This paradox of self-reference is much older than Russell. Did the Cretan philosopher Epimenides speak truthfully or falsely when he said "All Cretans are liars."
"The paradox of self-reference", thanks, that gives he me a handy handle.
I hope your Grandmother did not catch you Subhotosh
A friend of mine told me that a student asked the same question in a parochial school and the Father said "You idiot." Might friend and most of the class thought this was great. I thought "You idiot." Ah well, friends and family, some arguments are a lose, lose situation.
I think Russell's paradox goes something like this (without checking Google - I really should not be doing this - but what the heck, I wanna live dangerously.... without Google support): If God is omnipotent, can s/he build such large stone that s/he cannot lift it? (I asked that to my Grandmother and she chased me with a stick...)
A friend of mine told me that a student asked the same question in a parochial school and the Father said "You idiot." Might friend and most of the class thought this was great. I thought "You idiot." Ah well, friends and family, some arguments are a lose, lose situation.
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No, Russel's paradox is more like:I think Russell's paradox goes something like this (without checking Google - I really should not be doing this - but what the heck, I wanna live dangerously.... without Google support): If God is omnipotent, can s/he build such large stone that s/he cannot lift it? (I asked that to my Grandmother and she chased me with a stick...)
Call a set that does NOT contain itself "regular". Is the set of all regular sets regular?
Your humor is ...
mathematically possible but so politically incorrect ... I chastise myself for involuntarily smirking while reflecting that most wives are probably better at husbandry then most husbands.
Not that far removed from:
"My wife made me a millionaire; when I married her, I was a billionaire!"
mathematically possible but so politically incorrect ... I chastise myself for involuntarily smirking while reflecting that most wives are probably better at husbandry then most husbands.
ahem
Of course, did not mean too sound serious, sometimes a joke is just a joke and not a poke a benefit to all the folk. I liked it.True....hence husbands "agree" via the joke route...get my drift?