Trig/Pre-Calc- Finding Dimensions

orlilovescamels

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My Trig teacher gave us three problems she got from a Pre-Calc course at some university. We are not allowed to graph equations with our calculators to get the answer. She also says that at some point we need a quadratic equation to be shown. Needless to say, I'm really lost.
Here's the first one:

"The following figure shows a square inscribed within a unit square. For which value of x is the area of the inner square a minimum? What is the minimum area?
Hint: Denote the lengths of the two segments that make up the base of the unit square by t and 1-t. Now use the Pythagorean theorem and congruent triangles to express x in terms of t."

trig1.jpg


So what I have written down so far is:
(Using Pythagorean theorem) x= the sq. root of the quantity (t^2 + (1-t)^2)
and
(Using Area of a Triangle):
x^2 = 1- 4(.5(t(1-t)))
= 1-2(t(1-t))
=1-2t+2t^2
=2t^2-2t+1
And then I plug that into the Quadratic Formula. BUT, the number I get under the radical is -4. Imaginary sq. roots are not good.

Can anyone tell me what went wrong, or at least point me in a better direction
 
orlilovescamels said:
....And then I plug that into the Quadratic Formula.
What, exactly, did you plug into the Quadratic Formula? As written, you could only have solved for x in terms of t, or for t in terms of x. But you could not have obtained a numerical answer. So some steps must be missing.

Please reply with that missing information. Thank you! :D

Eliz.

P.S. As drawn, you can apply the Pythagorean Theorem to the triangles in the corners. This will allow you to express the area of the inner square in terms of t; that is, the area expression A can be written as the function A(t), where A(t) is a quadratic. Then you can minimize the area A by finding the vertex of the quadratic function A(t).
 
stapel said:
orlilovescamels said:
....And then I plug that into the Quadratic Formula.
What, exactly, did you plug into the Quadratic Formula? As written, you could only have solved for x in terms of t, or for t in terms of x. But you could not have obtained a numerical answer. So some steps must be missing.

Please reply with that missing information. Thank you! :D

Eliz.

P.S. As drawn, you can apply the Pythagorean Theorem to the triangles in the corners. This will allow you to express the area of the inner square in terms of t; that is, the area expression A can be written as the function A(t), where A(t) is a quadratic. Then you can minimize the area A by finding the vertex of the quadratic function A(t).

I put 2t^2-2t+1, plugging in 2 for a, -2 for b, and 1 for c.
The answer was supposed to come out to be the area of the inner square.
The square root of that coming out to x.

And I know the pythag. theorem can get me x; x= sq. rt. of (t^2 + (1-t)^2)
But I have no clue how to solve for a variable using variables.
And, I don't know how to find the vertex without a calculator unless you're saying to use y-k=a(x-h)^2, where (h,k) is vertex.

I hope that's what you needed to know.
 
Each of the triangles has an area of t(1t)2\displaystyle \frac{{t\left( {1 - t} \right)}}{2}.
There are four of them. So the internal square has an area of:
12t(1t)\displaystyle 1 - 2t\left( {1 - t} \right).
If you maximize 2t(1t)\displaystyle 2t\left( {1 - t} \right) then you minimize the area of the smaller square.
 
pka said:
Each of the triangles has an area of t(1t)2\displaystyle \frac{{t\left( {1 - t} \right)}}{2}.
There are four of them. So the internal square has an area of:
12t(1t)\displaystyle 1 - 2t\left( {1 - t} \right).
If you maximize 2t(1t)\displaystyle 2t\left( {1 - t} \right) then you minimize the area of the smaller square.

So tell me how to maximize that without using a calculator.
 
Hello, orlilovescamels!

The following figure shows a square inscribed within a unit square.
For which value of x is the area of the inner square a minimum?
What is the minimum area?
Hint: Denote the lengths of the two segments that make up the base of the unit square by t and 1-t.
Now use the Pythagorean theorem and congruent triangles to express x in terms of t.

trig1.jpg

We want to minimize the area of the inner square: A=x2\displaystyle \:A \:=\:x^2

From the right triangles, we have: x2=t2+(1t)2=2t22t+1\displaystyle \:x^2\:=\:t^2\,+\,(1-t)^2 \:=\:2t^2\,-\,2t\,+\,1

. . And that is the area function: A  =  2t22t+1\displaystyle \:A \;=\;2t^2\,-\,2t\,+\,1


How do we minimize the value of A\displaystyle A ?

Note that the equation is a parabola, opening upward.
Its minimum occurs at its vertex: v=b2a\displaystyle \:v \:=\:\frac{-b}{2a}

We have: a=2,  b=2\displaystyle \,a\,=\,2,\;b\,=\,-2
. . Hence, the vertex is at: t=(2)2(2)=12\displaystyle \:t \:=\:\frac{-(-2)}{2(2)} \:=\:\frac{1}{2}

To get the inner square with minimum area, use the midpoints of the sides.


From the right triangles, we have: x2=(12)2+(12)2=14+14=12\displaystyle \:x^2\:=\:\left(\frac{1}{2}\right)^2 \,+\,\left(\frac{1}{2}\right)^2 \:=\:\frac{1}{4}\,+\,\frac{1}{4} \:=\:\frac{1}{2}

Therefore, the area of the inner square is: A=x2=12\displaystyle \:A \:=\: x^2\:=\:\frac{1}{2}

 
That is a parabola. It has max/min at the vertex.
 
soroban said:
Hello, orlilovescamels!

The following figure shows a square inscribed within a unit square.
For which value of x is the area of the inner square a minimum?
What is the minimum area?
Hint: Denote the lengths of the two segments that make up the base of the unit square by t and 1-t.
Now use the Pythagorean theorem and congruent triangles to express x in terms of t.

trig1.jpg

We want to minimize the area of the inner square: A=x2\displaystyle \:A \:=\:x^2

From the right triangles, we have: x2=t2+(1t)2=2t22t+1\displaystyle \:x^2\:=\:t^2\,+\,(1-t)^2 \:=\:2t^2\,-\,2t\,+\,1

. . And that is the area function: A  =  2t22t+1\displaystyle \:A \;=\;2t^2\,-\,2t\,+\,1


How do we minimize the value of A\displaystyle A ?

Note that the equation is a parabola, opening upward.
Its minimum occurs at its vertex: v=b2a\displaystyle \:v \:=\:\frac{-b}{2a}

We have: a=2,  b=2\displaystyle \,a\,=\,2,\;b\,=\,-2
. . Hence, the vertex is at: t=(2)2(2)=12\displaystyle \:t \:=\:\frac{-(-2)}{2(2)} \:=\:\frac{1}{2}

To get the inner square with minimum area, use the midpoints of the sides.


From the right triangles, we have: x2=(12)2+(12)2=14+14=12\displaystyle \:x^2\:=\:\left(\frac{1}{2}\right)^2 \,+\,\left(\frac{1}{2}\right)^2 \:=\:\frac{1}{4}\,+\,\frac{1}{4} \:=\:\frac{1}{2}

Therefore, the area of the inner square is: A=x2=12\displaystyle \:A \:=\: x^2\:=\:\frac{1}{2}


Oooh. I'm so embarassed that I forgot the vertex equation.
Thank you so much!
 
Hmmm....A = x^2 = 2t^2 - 2t + 1

Set to zero:
2t^2 - 2t + 1 = 0

take 1st derivative:
4t - 2 = 0

t = 1/2

Too simple?
 
Denis said:
take 1st derivative:....
She's in pre-calculus, so she probably doesn't know about derivatives, yet.

In any case, she didn't have to bother with following the step-by-step instructions (finding the area A in terms of t by using the right triangles, because of t's relation to x and the area x<sup>2</sup>, and then finding the minimum by finding the vertex), because Soroban did it for her. :roll:

Eliz.
 
orlilovescamels said:
I put 2t^2-2t+1, plugging in 2 for a, -2 for b, and 1 for c....
The Quadratic Formula requires that you have "ax<sup>2</sup> + bx + c = 0". What did you have that equalled zero? What were your steps that justified using the Quadratic Formula? What, exactly, was your reasoning? :?:

Since there was no basis for assigning the area the value of zero, it might have been useful to try following the step-by-step instructions that were provided:

stapel said:
P.S. As drawn, you can apply the Pythagorean Theorem to the triangles in the corners. This will allow you to express the area of the inner square in terms of t; that is, the area expression A can be written as the function A(t), where A(t) is a quadratic. Then you can minimize the area A by finding the vertex of the quadratic function A(t).
Soroban won't always be available to follow the instructions and provide a complete worked solution for you, so it might be helpful, in the future, to give it a try yourself! :wink:

Eliz.
 
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